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    big stack v. big stack Deep

    There were approx 40 players remaining. 2500+ started. I had a top 10 stack. This Rush so not much of any reads.

    I would say my cutoff bet is standard.
    When 3bet by the button, should I
    a. fold
    b. call
    c. 4bet (if so how much?)

    If we go choose b. or c. (asssuming we didn't 4bet shove), what is our plan?

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    Table 75 - 19:36:00 ET - 2011/02/25
    Blinds : 8000/16000 - Ante 2000.0
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    [SB] riyaroh (347500)
    [BB] IG23 (255785)
    [1] LUCAS INIGO (175142)
    [2] AAketsKK (60390)
    [3] monticompton (221654)
    [4] TheAlligatorNo1 (685029)
    [5] LucasNobre (561208)
    [6] dyehard (477154)
    [But] lobsterbud12 (466914)

    dyehard Initial Pot: 42000

    LUCAS INIGO folds
    AAketsKK folds
    monticompton folds
    TheAlligatorNo1 folds
    LucasNobre folds
    dyehard raises to 33999
    lobsterbud12 raises to 100000
    riyaroh folds
    IG23 folds
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    In a Rush tourney without a real good read I fold at this point. Calling oop with 20% of our stack invested is no good and what range would he be 3 bet folding for 20% of his stack....


    Fold>Shove>call

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    easy fold imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnlovells View Post

    Fold>Shove>call
    Late in a rush I love an almost ATC bet from the cutoff. But you got caught. You're out 7% of your stack. With the antes you make that back up with the next steal. Fold it and move on. Why on earth would you want to risk any more with that hand at this point in the tourney?
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    Anyone else agree with the raise/steal here?

    I'd like to get a few more responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyehard View Post
    Anyone else agree with the raise/steal here?

    I'd like to get a few more responses.
    The original open is standard and fine but without reads I think a 4bet bluff is pretty bad especially since he puts 1/4 of his stack in and you have a monster stack and should be relying on skill. Its unlikely he will fold and why cripple your stack trying to when YOU HAVE NO READS that he 3bets light or 3bets/folds often. For all you know he has never 3bet folded in his life.

    Its spewy and bad and really doesnt make any sense. Keep your huge stack and abuse everyone = much more profitable than attempting a 4bet bluff that you are purely guessing and PRAYING will work
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyehard View Post
    Anyone else agree with the raise/steal here?

    I'd like to get a few more responses.
    I certainly don't see ant problem with the steal attempt...but without reads the only plan for continuing this hand would be to make sure to flop 9d Td Qd

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    Love the steal attempt in late position, easy fold when 3bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfproclaim View Post
    Love the steal attempt in late position, easy fold when 3bet.
    I agree completely with this, and especially liked your initial raise sizing.
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    Nice plan...easy fold
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