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    10 10 against early position raise.

    This one was a little tough. The villain is playing pretty tight the whole game about 15vpip. Other than that I dont know much about him. What to do?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #11957170620: $69 + $6 Sit & Go (89584149), Table 4 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:52:37 ET - 2009/04/30
    Seat 1: ralom (1,500)
    Seat 2: pegboy1 (2,800)
    Seat 3: saltysab (5,610)
    Seat 4: Marko45 (7,255)
    Seat 5: LAPPIN (1,720)
    Seat 7: Sethers009 (2,080)
    Seat 8: dirtydan2511 (8,350)
    Seat 9: bockshiner (4,190)
    Sethers009 posts the small blind of 80
    dirtydan2511 posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to pegboy1 [Td Tc]
    bockshiner has 15 seconds left to act
    bockshiner raises to 480
    ralom folds
    pegboy1..........(wasnt sure what to do) with an "m" of just over 11 what is the correct play?

    gotta figure with him comming out of early position hes on something premium........
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    Since he's been pretty tight, he's utg, and there's still 5 or 6 others to act behind you I would say folding is best.

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    Just busted out of $10MTT $10K Gauarantee on Stars with same hand situation -- about same M's, getting deep -- The ep raiser had been snug, but not a rock. He had JJ == I shoved 10bb's w TT -- I don't think with 10bb's I can smooth call and fold the flop if he bets == this is similar to the 99 hand I had replied to earlier == with a bigger stack i THINK you can smooth call and call a small cbet on the flop with the intention of check folding the turn (Dr Fill Good does not agree AT ALL) -- but I think your stack (and I know mine) was to small to call preflop and call the flop cbet with the intent of folding to a bet on the turn === so i dunno - Id like to hear other experienced opinions, cause Shoving with ten or eleven big blinds is not a very good play, you're not getting enough action to call for set equity. Perhaps TT is a FOLD? I dunno.

    PokerStars Game #27722598505: Tournament #158091211, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (1000/2000) - 2009/05/02 1:03:13 ET Table '158091211 143' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: sinkburner (51084 in chips) Seat 3: themekethe (19775 in chips) Seat 4: cjay142 (94203 in chips) Seat 5: magi8000 (72646 in chips) Seat 6: Houdini9 (26038 in chips) Seat 7: 1984Cleo (31483 in chips) Seat 8: BOU-NEPTUNO (510 in chips) is sitting out Seat 9: kikkaogalla (39847 in chips)
    sinkburner: posts the ante 250
    themekethe: posts the ante 250
    cjay142: posts the ante 250
    magi8000: posts the ante 250
    Houdini9: posts the ante 250
    1984Cleo: posts the ante 250
    BOU-NEPTUNO: posts the ante 250
    kikkaogalla: posts the ante 250
    Houdini9: posts small blind 1000
    1984Cleo: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Houdini9 [Tc Td]
    BOU-NEPTUNO: folds
    kikkaogalla: folds
    sinkburner: raises 5899 to 7899
    themekethe: folds
    cjay142: folds
    magi8000: folds
    Houdini9: raises 17889 to 25788 and is all-in
    1984Cleo: folds
    sinkburner: calls 17889
    *** FLOP *** [4c 6s 3h]
    Houdini9 said, "ihg"
    Houdini9 said, "!("
    *** TURN *** [4c 6s 3h] [3d]
    Houdini9 said, "!)"
    *** RIVER *** [4c 6s 3h 3d] [7c]
    cjay142 said, "night night"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Houdini9: shows [Tc Td] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
    sinkburner: shows [Jd Js] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
    Houdini9 said, "!)@)@)@)@)@)@)@)@"
    sinkburner collected 55576 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 55576 | Rake 0
    Board [4c 6s 3h 3d 7c]
    Seat 1: sinkburner showed [Jd Js] and won (55576) with two pair, Jacks and Threes Seat 3: themekethe folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: cjay142 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: magi8000 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Houdini9 (small blind) showed [Tc Td] and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes Seat 7: 1984Cleo (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: BOU-NEPTUNO folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: kikkaogalla folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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    i think if u and he both had at least 4500 chips, i would call
    here we have to fold here, i dont like it, to fold tens, really, but it seems no other way to play

    -----Added 2 May 2009 at 02:28:58-----

    i'd shove in your hand only if utg is really maniac and raises a2, k8 from early positions
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodNightBaby View Post
    i think if u and he both had at least 4500 chips, i would call
    here we have to fold here, i dont like it, to fold tens, really, but it seems no other way to play
    Hate folding tens, but I completely agree with this.
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