Live Game - Squeeze vs. a Loose-aggressive opponent

**AlphaDion** · 05-29-2011 09:19 PM

Live tourney, part of Harrogate Poker League; blinds are 300/600 avg stack 27k. This is a 25 seater £5 freezeout, for the most part, field consists of inexperienced players. I got 22k in chips and I am in the BB, 5 limpers, SB completes, I got 45o, decide to squeeze, I raise to 5k, everyone folds to the SB who calls. He's a loose aggressive player capable of all kinds of moves. He got caught to bluff-raise a pair of deuces a few hands ago, on a 29j board. I've got history with this player and I wouldn't give him credit at all when he calls a squeeze bet, re-raises pf etc. Flop comes J52 rainbow, he ships less than 17k. What do you do here with middle pair?

**dyehard** · 05-30-2011 12:08 AM

Easy fold and I have never heard of squeezing with 6 people. Pretty awful attempt considering of the 6 limpers, you will only have position on one of them.

**AlphaDion** · 05-30-2011 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by dyehard

Easy fold and I have never heard of squeezing with 6 people. Pretty awful attempt considering of the 6 limpers, you will only have position on one of them.

As I said, the field consists of inexperienced players who limp with all kind of junk and they will rarely call a big raise with it... Ok, whats your play if you have QQ in this spot, are you going to fold with 6 limpers?

**dyehard** · 05-30-2011 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaDion

As I said, the field consists of inexperienced players who limp with all kind of junk and they will rarely call a big raise with it... Ok, whats your play if you have QQ in this spot, are you going to fold with 6 limpers?

Raising with QQ is not a squeeze. It's betting for value and reducing the field with the best hand. And why in the world wouldn't you want to see a flop for free vs. many inexperienced players with a hand like 45? If you flop big you are going to take 1 or more players to value town.

**AlphaDion** · 05-30-2011 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by dyehard

Raising with QQ is not a squeeze. It's betting for value and reducing the field with the best hand. And why in the world wouldn't you want to see a flop for free vs. many inexperienced players with a hand like 45? If you flop big you are going to take 1 or more players to value town.

I agree with you. I guess I did not know how to do a proper squeeze... Do you only squeeze against 1 or two opponents?

**AlphaDion** · 05-31-2011 01:13 AM

I edited the post. I meant I did NOT know how to squeeze properly. I guess you need 1-2 limpers to make a squueze play work...

**foldimo** · 05-31-2011 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by AlphaDion

I edited the post. I meant I did NOT know how to squeeze properly. I guess you need 1-2 limpers to make a squueze play work...

i dont think this is necessarily true, to me stacksizes are more important than the number of actual limpers. ie, if 5 people limp 100bb deep, a squeeze is pretty much never going to work + will be ineffective if you are OOP as bruce said. however multiple limpers at like 20-30 bb you can squeeze a little lighter with your ace highs/broadways/pp because people arent usually limping/overlimping hands that have you dominated, plus a lot of money where people just want to see pots with less than premium hands swings the odds more in your favor.

**AlphaDion** · 05-31-2011 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by foldimo

i dont think this is necessarily true, to me stacksizes are more important than the number of actual limpers. ie, if 5 people limp 100bb deep, a squeeze is pretty much never going to work + will be ineffective if you are OOP as bruce said. however multiple limpers at like 20-30 bb you can squeeze a little lighter with your ace highs/broadways/pp because people arent usually limping/overlimping hands that have you dominated, plus a lot of money where people just want to see pots with less than premium hands swings the odds more in your favor.

I've done the same thing before many times with multiple limpers and I only get called by laggy players who dont deserve any credit for a good hand. Although they understand position, squeeze play etc. they can be outplayed post flop as they call you simply because they know you're capable of squeezing and want to play back. In this particular instance the SB had QT and he shipped the flop with overcards, I called and stacked him off with middle pair. I knew that he's aware of my squeezing as we've got history; what do you think of his play, do you call w QT in a similar spot? Do you think if you have a read the right thing is to ship the flop and rep 66-99? I mean I agree with Bruce about the preflop play but as played I think I made a good call otf...