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  1. #1
    Ivan_Drago45 is offline Dolphin

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    trouble hands at 25NL

    i'm trying to work on my cash game skills. here are some trouble hands I have had. let me know your thoughts on how they were played and what you would do or have done differently.

    Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    UTG: $26.44
    Hero (MP): $38.80
    CO: $47.50
    BTN: $23.42
    SB: $19.79
    BB: $24.98

    SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J A:spade:

    fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, fold

    Flop: ($2.80, 3 players) A:club: 8 Q:spade:
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BTN calls $2.25, fold

    Turn: ($7.30, 2 players) 5:diamond:
    Hero bets $6.25, BTN calls $6.25

    River: ($19.80, 2 players) 6:diamond:
    [color=red]Hero ??????

    Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    MP: $25.15
    CO: $7.55
    BTN: $22.45
    Hero (SB): $25.75
    BB: $51.02
    UTG: $29.91

    Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 7:diamond: A:diamond:

    fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.00, 3 players) 6 T 2:club:
    Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00, fold

    Turn: ($7.00, 2 players) Q:spade:
    Hero bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50

    River: ($16.00, 2 players) T:spade:
    Hero ????

    Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    BTN: $28.00
    Hero (SB): $30.62
    BB: $25.00
    UTG: $20.00

    Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25, UTG posts DB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero has J:club: K:club:

    UTG checks, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, UTG calls $0.75

    Flop: ($2.25, 2 players) 2:club: 4:spade: 8:club:
    Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25

    Turn: ($4.75, 2 players) J
    Hero bets $3.25, UTG calls $3.25

    River: ($11.25, 2 players) A:spade:
    [color=red]Hero ????

    Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    UTG: $28.24
    Hero (MP): $25.00
    CO: $26.65
    BTN: $50.60
    SB: $67.64
    BB: $25.00

    SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A:spade: K

    fold, Hero raises to $1.00, CO raises to $3.10, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.10

    Flop: ($6.55, 2 players) Q:club: 5:spade: 9:spade:
    Hero bets $4.00, CO calls $4.00

    Turn: ($14.55, 2 players) A:club:
    Hero bets $11.00, CO raises to $19.55 and is all-in, Hero ???

    I know the call here is mandatory, but would you have done anything differently up to this point?

    Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    BTN: $97.88
    SB: $26.56
    BB: $30.76
    UTG: $25.58
    MP: $50.71
    Hero (CO): $29.15

    SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Q Q:diamond:

    fold, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, fold, fold, MP calls $1.65

    Flop: ($7.85, 3 players) 5:club: 9:diamond: 6
    MP checks, Hero bets $5.00, fold, MP raises to $10.00, [color=red]Hero ???

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    madman215 is offline Shrimp

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    hand 1, AsJh - c bet, maybe slightly less ~1.75 prob. Dont mind turn c bet, but 6.25 way too much.... prefer check and call river (if he checks behind)

    hand 2, Ad7d - flat call pre, no need to raise as hand has good potential on flop

    hand 3, KcJc- like the raise pre considering the guy has posted oop.... c bet pretty mandatory as we raised pre and he is likely calling pretty thin. Dont mind c bet turn when we hit the J. Think it is best to shut down on river after he calls the turn bet, call off most river bets depending on size.

    hand 4 - AsKh - You raised and called a 3 bet. Check fold, no idea why you 'donk' bet him on Q hi flop (not sure of history obv). If he has been active 4 bet him pre flop. In fact likely a 4 bet as standard as its 6 handed, villain dependent and how the table has been playing.

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    hand 1:
    i think c/c is fine on the river. You will be losing value to worse aces or stubborn Qx's...but will occasionally get bet into be worse, save some chips against 2 pair and sets, and there are probably a few bluffs in his range.

    hand 2:
    limp behind, no point in inflating the pot oop, it will just put you in awkward spots and make you feel obligated to dbl/triple barrel sometimes. That said, the cbet is standard, the turn bet is fine because of the scare card. On the river, it would be a simple check if hearts weren't on the flop. I think you can bet $4.50 again and you will take it down if he had a FD or he will raise with a T, so its a good price on your bluff.

    hand 3:
    i think you can c/c or b/f. I dont think many players are going to bluff shove over a river bet so itd be safe to assume A2 A3 A4 A5 22 44 if he comes over the top of our $4.50 bet.

    hand 4:
    not sure why you 4x'd without a limper in the hand. i don't like the donkbet at all. Just c/f since the only hands we get him to possibly fold are JJ TT AK (assuming his 3bet is 99+ AQ+ KQs)

    hand 5:
    This has set written all over it. not sure if i can refrain from shoving without a read on the villain though.
    "I played like Phil Ivey but ran like Shortmat" -KevinW

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    Overall, I think you are Cbetting way too much without reads or stats showing that villians will fold to cbets. Why cbet a 8 high flop with overs unless villian will fold 90%+ of the time? This just bloats the pot. Also, one pair hands are not worth triple barreling at this level. If you are watching PAD or High Stakes Poker, that works but not online 25nl, 50nl, or even 100 nl. TPTK is a fair flop hand at best. If villian doesnt go away, identify a range, then proceed. Dont just double barrell thinking he will go away.

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