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Pre Flop Raise OHL8 Limit.......Yes or No??

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by , 06-17-2011 at 08:06 PM (2831 Views)
First sorry about the content in my last post, think I was tilting abit and being alittle whiny about it.
Preflop raising? Boston's book says you should never raise preflop in OHL8 because all the starting hands are fairly equal unlike NL Holdem. Another school of thought and mostly by the ole timers is never raise naked A2xx PF. I guess is you are raising its usually A23, AK23. I mean c'mon theres not that many super premium hands in OHL8 and if you only raise the hands that come once in 300 hands fine, but everyone at the table should know exactly what you have.

The other inconsistencies or confusing aspect of PF raising is WHY? There's two reasons and they seem to contradict each other. One being is to not let people in the pot and only play heads up at best. Two is you want alot players in being you're hand plays well multi pot and you want as much money as possible in the hand-The same goes for not raising certain hands in EP cause u dont want people behind you to fold you want them in

I do want to clarify that the games here in Vegas, especially at the Orleans are LOOSE tables. It is more common of and I said atleast 5 players seeing a flop most hands, and believe me when I tell you 6-7 seeing the flop is more like it.

My thoughts are first that most the players and even the local regs are not well versed in the game. This also means there are tons of 2nd and 3rd best hands playing and not folding on the flop. They will call you down to the river, I've seen it (One great reason to play only nut like hands whether high or low).

So do you raise to build a pot or do you raise to have less players involved. Guess it really depends on your hand and the table. which hands to raise to have less players and which hand to raise to build a pot. What a dilemna. Cya

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  1. FrankNagaiJr's Avatar
    In LO8 at the kind of table you describe, you are raising to build a pot, as opposed to pushing people out. If nobody folds to your raise, you've doubled the pot size, and justified a lot of chasing on the part of your opponents in the hand. That's why you want to raise A23, A24, A34 and double-suited AAxx. If the flop is horrible, shrug, fold and move on. If you are playing a lot less hands than everybody else, you may want to habitually raise anytime you come in from late position, if you're okay with a little more variance.
  2. bluandbrneyes's Avatar
    Yeah, I'm starting to realize that. Now my only issue is doing it up front from EP, I'm worried about people folding behind me when I have A23 so I dont raise when in EP and with hands like AAxs I worry about the opposite like they wont fold. I keep freakin myself out. Hope that makes sense. Thanks
  3. FrankNagaiJr's Avatar
    I think you should try raising light (but not pure garbage) from EP and see if your raises are respected. I'm guessing they generally won't be.
  4. bluandbrneyes's Avatar
    I'm gonna fool around with it this weekend. Thanks man
  5. Cambo71's Avatar
    I think raising or not really depends on what you want to happen rather than your hand values as much. Obviously AA23 double suited with 5 limpers on the button your raise.
    I might raise to get position. I might open limp if I want let of peeps in, I might raise with hands that will play better with against fewer people. AA45 not suited I might open raise to get less people in the pot. In a limped pot and I play that from the blind I will just call, for deception and why raise the pot out of position. I dont think you can play AA agressive when you have more than 3 in the pot.
    I think I would rather open raise AKT2 suited versus A256 suited. The first has better high possibilities and the second can take more low action being counterfeited.
  6. Cambo71's Avatar
    I think raising or not really depends on what you want to happen rather than your hand values as much. Obviously AA23 double suited with 5 limpers on the button your raise.
    I might raise to get position. I might open limp if I want let of peeps in, I might raise with hands that will play better with against fewer people. AA45 not suited I might open raise to get less people in the pot. In a limped pot and I play that from the blind I will just call, for deception and why raise the pot out of position. I dont think you can play AA agressive when you have more than 3 in the pot.
    I think I would rather open raise AKT2 suited versus A256 suited. The first has better high possibilities and the second can take more low action being counterfeited.