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    More tourney follies by D-Nut

    The inability of me not being able to play a flawless tournament continues. Now, I know that sounds like a daunting task, but I haven't really been a real beneficiary of any unreal runs of great cards at the right time or sucking out my opponants from start to finish, so I've had to rely on making correct plays. I'm still waiting for that day where I just cant freakin miss....maybe someday soon.

    But anyways.....I was chugging along nicely in a pretty decent sized MTT last night....managed to play, what I thought was a well played, smart tourney, never really had any great opportunities to knock it out of the park, but never had any misfortune either...and I'll take that every day of the week.

    I earn myself an average chipstack with roughly 80 players left and the bubble happening at 57 players. Average chipstack is roughly 21K at the 500/1000/100 level. I have been moderately aggressive, and I decide I'm going to ramp up the aggression just a notch. So I look at in UTG+2 and I raise it up to 2700, since I have way more success raising with these types of hands in early position than late position. Anyways....I get called by a player in MP, and we go heads up to a flop of

    The pot now has roughly 8000, so I lead out for 5000, and I get shoved on for all the money, and I'm forced to fold. I berated myself afterwards for what seemed at the time to be an unneccesary waste of chips...results aside, am I correct in thinking that? Or is this just bad timing.....I think after I analyzed it....I'm OK with the raise preflop, but this was not a real good board to c-bet.....anyways....

    So the snowball effect happens, like it always does....I ended that hand with about 12 BB, and I had to let an orbit go before I ultimately had 10BB in the small blind, and it folds to me. I look at My opponant in the big blind has me covered by 2BB. I decide this is a +EV play to shove with any hand here, so that is what I do...he wakes up with KK.....gg D-Nut.

    Bottom line is that the previous play caused the bad luck in the second hand.....anyone have anything that can help me here? Or do you disagree with my analysis? I'm open to all comments, bring it!
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    With your bad run, have you taken a few days off? I did and it seemed to help me mentally. I still had poor cards for the next couple of days, but I made better decisions and cashed a few times.

    My big break through came tonight. Took a $3 90 KO for first place.

    Good luck and play smart!

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    Thumbs down Don't c-bet on that board

    The pot now has roughly 8000, so I lead out for 5000, and I get shoved on for all the money, and I'm forced to fold. I berated myself afterwards for what seemed at the time to be an unneccesary waste of chips...results aside, am I correct in thinking that? Or is this just bad timing.....I think after I analyzed it....I'm OK with the raise preflop, but this was not a real good board to c-bet.....anyways....
    I'd like a smaller raise here for two reasons. First, it's easier to fold when you get re-raised, and you have more chips left over. Second, you'll keep the pot smaller, which helps when you prevent getting into so much trouble post-flop. I'm not very good post-flop, but I agree that this is an especially bad board to continuation bet on, especially out of position.

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    As I told Dave I have no problem with opening with QJ. I am in agreement with Scott on the amount, as I would of opted for something in more of the 2200-2500 range.

    Dave you told me that you thought that was a good board to C-bet on, which I do disagree on. You thought that getting flatted meant that the villan probably had a pocket pair, which is reasonable. However IMO I find that late in tourneys people are more likely flatting with marginal hands with big cards AJ, A10, KQ, etc. I feel like when people open they usually get 3 bet with low pocket pairs instead of settling on set mining and there fore surrendering the pot if they don't hit. Then again if you c-bet and they insta muck I sound like a idiot and all is right with the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cusecrusher View Post
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    Like Scott, I might have kept my PF raise a little smaller. I also might have checked the flop, depending on what you had been doing lately (you're 4 to a gut shot, and it's a dangerous flop for your hand). A check could also be scary to your opponent: it could be nothing or it could be AK/KK/AA, and you might get a free card to make your straight.

    That being said, I don't think you played it badly. IMO that's a good flop for a CB against a flat call, and I think you take that pot down there > 75% of the time.


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    I feel that opening with QJ in early position for 3k isn't to great either. Depending on what tourney that is also. Most people don't even realize your raising UTG in some tourneys and call with anything. SO
    1. you will always have bad position in a pot that is 8k, unless the SB or BB call which in that case would probably have a good hand

    2. What flop are you happy with with QJ. Two pair flush straight and a huge draw. You can easily be smoothed by a monster hand or hand like AQ and AJ.

    3. Just fold preflop, no reason to tango for so much money with a really terrible hand in bad position. It gets you in trouble 90% more then it will help. By folding hands like these in terrible position deep in a tourney i promise you will do better. Its something i fixd in my game over the past 5/6 months and you can see what a difference it made me.

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