F&$king SICK!! THIS IS SO SICK!!!!

How can anyone in there right mind make this call!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is so f%@king sick my stomachs turning right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS GUY MUST BE A COMPLETE IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

didnt bluff a single hand until this point. vpip was about 9 the whole game!!!

The only hands he would have seen me play were AA and QQ.

There are so many hands I could have had sitting in the big blind that had him beat its sickening!!!!!

Needless to say he was out within 10 minutes of this play................



Full Tilt Poker Game #11808141650: $25,000 Guarantee (88413445), Table 87 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:18:31 ET - 2009/04/21
Seat 1: LuKeMoNeY (6,132)
Seat 2: nekto_volk (27,667)
Seat 3: stlhoc_1 (4,294)
Seat 4: pomipino (28,481)
Seat 5: Irish_Green (11,925)
Seat 6: BrotherD_87 (18,275)
Seat 7: taki13 (3,705)
Seat 8: pegboy1 (18,268)
Seat 9: UpYaBoya (3,003)
LuKeMoNeY antes 50
nekto_volk antes 50
stlhoc_1 antes 50
pomipino antes 50
Irish_Green antes 50
BrotherD_87 antes 50
taki13 antes 50
pegboy1 antes 50
UpYaBoya antes 50
taki13 posts the small blind of 200
pegboy1 posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pegboy1 [7d Td]
UpYaBoya folds
LuKeMoNeY calls 400
nekto_volk raises to 1,200
stlhoc_1 folds
pomipino has 15 seconds left to act
pomipino calls 1,200
Irish_Green folds
BrotherD_87 folds
taki13 folds
pegboy1 calls 800
LuKeMoNeY calls 800
*** FLOP *** [6s 4h 5s]
pegboy1 checks
LuKeMoNeY checks
nekto_volk has 15 seconds left to act
nekto_volk bets 1,600
pomipino folds
pegboy1 calls 1,600
LuKeMoNeY folds
*** TURN *** [6s 4h 5s] [2h]
pegboy1 checks
nekto_volk has 15 seconds left to act
nekto_volk bets 2,000
pegboy1 raises to 5,600
nekto_volk has 15 seconds left to act
nekto_volk calls 3,600
*** RIVER *** [6s 4h 5s 2h] [2s]
pegboy1 bets 9,818, and is all in
nekto_volk has 15 seconds left to act
nekto_volk has requested TIME
nekto_volk calls 9,818
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pegboy1 shows [7d Td] a pair of Twos
nekto_volk shows [As Qc] a pair of Twos
nekto_volk wins the pot (39,486) with a pair of Twos
pegboy1 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39,486 | Rake 0
Board: [6s 4h 5s 2h 2s]
Seat 1: LuKeMoNeY folded on the Flop
Seat 2: nekto_volk showed [As Qc] and won (39,486) with a pair of Twos
Seat 3: stlhoc_1 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: pomipino folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Irish_Green folded before the Flop
Seat 6: BrotherD_87 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: taki13 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: pegboy1 (big blind) showed [7d Td] and lost with a pair of Twos
Seat 9: UpYaBoya folded before the Flop

peg it just gets worse and ****ing worse man. I can't tell you why. I got called with A high like 5 times in one sessions. i had a set everytime. People just callman. its impossible to play. The best way is just check fold and not even play poker. Online poker isn't real pressure poker and what not. Can't think of theseguys folding anything here. They won't. I had an italian guy preflop first 10 hands of a 75 dolalr 45 person. he raised to 120. i raised to 400 with AA. he re raised allhis chips.. Guy has 910 and hits a straight. THe play is worse and worse and i ain't winning more money. Just losing more or breaking even. Its insane.

People talk about online poker getting dry from good play, thank god there are still players doing stupid stuff like that call and what matt described. Sure there are gonna be silly hands and a lot of donk calls, but that is good. That is what allows us to make buckets of $. These guys just don't understand... aren't even in the realm of understanding sometimes- especially some of these new Euro players! Some of these guys harken back to the Party Poker days of yore. Don't be upset man, be happy that dumbasses are still trying to donate in force!

This guy probabally didn't know what he was doing, but if he did, I really like his call. The call is pretty thin, maybe to thin for a tourney, but I like it.

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Is more reason to call.

You aren't repping a full house at all, and your range is mostly broadways (that missed this board), that may or may not includes spades. And you bombing hands like 77 or 88 here is pretty thin and may be to thin for him to give you credit for. For your range here, him having AQ high is just as good of a hand in relative strength as pocket tens IMO.

But I doubt he thought about all of this and he prolly is just an idiot. NH.

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This guy probabally didn't know what he was doing, but if he did, I really like his call. The call is pretty thin, maybe to thin for a tourney, but I like it.

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Is more reason to call.

You aren't repping a full house at all, and your range is mostly broadways (that missed this board), that may or may not includes spades. And you bombing hands like 77 or 88 here is pretty thin and may be to thin for him to give you credit for. For your range here, him having AQ high is just as good of a hand in relative strength as pocket tens IMO.

But I doubt he thought about all of this and he prolly is just an idiot. NH.

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Gotta put yourself in his shoes.

1) hes sitting prob. close to top 20 of 250 left of prob 1100 or so who started. Im sitting at about 60th
and have been very patient.

2) I limp in under the big blind behind 3 other players. (very possible str8 draw, small to mid pair, or flush draw for that matter)

3) at the check raise IMO he either has to fold or push over the top.

4) he completely misses any possible hand.

5) It is not worth him to call considering I could literally have anything at all including a set of 2s.

I dont see any way he could make this call at all.

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2) I come in under the big blind behind 3 other players. (very possible str8 draw or small pair, or flush draw for that matter)

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I agree.

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3) at the check raise IMO he either has to fold or push over the top.

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Reraising is probabally best in a tournament. But I'd just call and let you barrel since you aren't calling the all in with any hands that aren't about 50% equity or better against us and I don't want to fold out any bluffs.

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5) It is not worth him to call considering I could literally have anything at all including a set of 2s.

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I can only put you on maybe A2 of diamonds and clubs and I don't see you floating with those hands too often and if you are, then you most likely are floating a huge range of hands (maybe your entire range) and I am actually more happy about calling your turn checkraise. I don't ever put you as flopping a set. If you can have anything, then I'd call since anything includes a lot of hands worse than ace high. A3s makes sence but there are only 3 combos of that hand. 22 doesnt make sense to me. You could have a set or 54, but flopping a set is hard, and its not a bad assumption to assume you raise a set on the flop on a 2toned board with straight draws a significant amount of the time. 87 makes sense but you raise the flop with 87 of diamonds, clubs and hearts a decent amount of the time. I would estimate 99 and A3s as your most likely good hand here. But draws are more likely, and every draw missed. Even though there aren't many hands you can have, you probabally aren't bluffing here very often either so it is kinda thin, but an aggro opponent is bluffing here a decent amount of the time. Draws make up most of your range for bluffing so I would say the turn call is thin but the river call on a complete blank is standard.

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1) hes sitting prob. close to top 20 of 250 left of prob 1100 or so who started.

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I am clueless when it comes to tournaments so I believe you that it was a bad play for these reasons. The call down is pretty thin, but I'd say +ev. Too thin and too high varaince for a turney probabally though. Like I said, I doubt he knew what he was doing and I don't doubt that his play was idiotic. And I like the way you played the hand too. Continuing on the river after you raised the turn was very good IMO since you need to 3barrel to get him to lay down most of his draws and Ax that he may be calling you down with. Unfortunately he didn't fold his Ax.

OK. someone explain this to me.... Is there some kind of +ev expected with play like this? This literally happens all the time now.............

What the heck is going on?

Full Tilt Poker Game #11822807981: $10 + $1 Knockout (88533452), Table 52 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:00:42 ET - 2009/04/22
Seat 1: XCrahim2k (3,940)
Seat 2: mikshow (5,810)
Seat 3: BigWilli76 (2,020)
Seat 4: pegboy1 (2,690)
Seat 5: MRZ67 (2,645)
Seat 6: coolvval (5,385)
Seat 7: Trixer666 (3,555)
Seat 8: nerdatwork (30)
Seat 9: 8LOKO8 (4,090)
BigWilli76 posts the small blind of 25
pegboy1 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pegboy1 [9d 9c]
MRZ67 calls 50
coolvval folds
Trixer666 has 15 seconds left to act
Trixer666 calls 50
nerdatwork calls 30, and is all in
8LOKO8 raises to 305
XCrahim2k folds
mikshow has 15 seconds left to act
mikshow folds
BigWilli76 has 15 seconds left to act
BigWilli76 folds
pegboy1 calls 255
MRZ67 calls 255
Trixer666 calls 255
*** FLOP *** [4c 4h 9s]
pegboy1 checks
MRZ67 checks
Trixer666 checks
8LOKO8 bets 1,050
pegboy1 raises to 2,385, and is all in
MRZ67 folds
Trixer666 folds
8LOKO8 calls 1,335
pegboy1 shows [9d 9c]
nerdatwork shows [Jd Ac]
8LOKO8 shows [Ad Qh]
*** TURN *** [4c 4h 9s] [6d]
coolvval is sitting out
*** RIVER *** [4c 4h 9s 6d] [2d]
pegboy1 shows a full house, Nines full of Fours
8LOKO8 shows a pair of Fours
pegboy1 wins the side pot (5,870) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
nerdatwork shows a pair of Fours
pegboy1 wins the main pot (175) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
nerdatwork stands up
XCrahim2k stands up
mikshow stands up
BigWilli76 stands up
pegboy1 stands up
MRZ67 stands up
coolvval stands up
Trixer666 stands up
8LOKO8 stands up
nerdatwork (Observer): nh
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,045 Main pot 175. Side pot 5,870. | Rake 0
Board: [4c 4h 9s 6d 2d]
Seat 1: XCrahim2k didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: mikshow (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: BigWilli76 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: pegboy1 (big blind) showed [9d 9c] and won (6,045) with a full house, Nines full of Fours
Seat 5: MRZ67 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: coolvval didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Trixer666 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: nerdatwork showed [Jd Ac] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 9: 8LOKO8 showed [Ad Qh] and lost with a pair of Fours

lol nh. How'd you manage to dodge runner runner aces?

How's you manage to get the hand history when your table collapsed right after the hand? It's nice to see a WTF can you believe this hand where someone wins. People tend to forget about these ones and only remember the ones they get anally violated on!

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*** FLOP *** [4c 4h 9s]

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Why'd the one guy cbet so large on this board and with the stacksizes??? His cbet size is worse than the calls.