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    Question Fold A-K with two shoves in front of you?

    This hand came up in a 45-player SNG with 14 players remaining. I was really torn... What would you do and why?

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    Dealt to Chipless Wonder [Ad Ks]
    three point oh folds
    modragons raises to 4,182, and is all in
    Latuz calls 3,622, and is all in
    bigbuck79 folds
    EpicFail folds
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    You should cut out the results...
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    Fold is OK with me in this case. More players in the hand dilutes what you have in my opinion.
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    I do not like a fold here at all, you do not have a money making stack right now. You could quite easily be up against two underpairs to your AK, as well as a weaker ace and a lower pair. You have the chance to triple up and have a stack where you can win, as well as bully the bubble. There will be the odd time where they have KK and or AA, but not often enough to make this spot a fold.

    If you fold here with AK you are basically playing for a min cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Fill Good View Post
    I do not like a fold here at all, you do not have a money making stack right now. You could quite easily be up against two underpairs to your AK, as well as a weaker ace and a lower pair. You have the chance to triple up and have a stack where you can win, as well as bully the bubble. There will be the odd time where they have KK and or AA, but not often enough to make this spot a fold.

    If you fold here with AK you are basically playing for a min cash.
    Well said. This is a great spot to have 10K in chips with 12 left. You have to gamble at some point and this looks like an ideal situation. With a little more than 10BB, I feel this is a call 100% of the time.

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    Call, triple up, and win the damn thing.

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    The first players range is going to be so wide that we shouldn't even be worried about him IMO. So unless we have some steller read that the second player is never calling all in with a hand as strong as aq or tt then we should go ahead and type "ONE TIME!!!" into the chat and call.
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    I 100% agree with Phil here, you have WAY!!!!!!!!! to few chips to even consider folding. If I have 14k or more I consider folding for about 20 secs and then call. If I have 20k or more in this spot I might fold, maybe, Like 1 out 8 times I fold or something.

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    to last poster: lol whats the reason to fold here if you would have 20k chips?

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    I would almost never fold. If i thought one of the players was a threat with chips, then I may decide to not get involved. Only because if I do and lose ,I now have a dangerous player with an equal stack. If I fold and the dangerous player doubles up I still have a chip advantage to bully with. Once again though I would almost never fold.

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