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    Omaha (High Limit Fixed only) Questions and help Please for live play.

    Hoping some of you guys can help me out here. This is for "live" play. I need some help understanding this game along with some math help. I'm pretty much playing Jeff Hwangs starting hand selections which pretty much are 4 cards making a wrap via consecutive cards, with one/two gaps. It seems to me to flop a wrap you must hit the "so called nut draw" on the flop". This means you must flop two cards that make your straight. My assumption here is if that doesnt happen you are hopefully flopping two pair and/or a non nut flush draw or even 3 of a kind.

    I DONT play danglers unless I am in the small blind and completing. I don play flops with a paired board nor a flop with two suits not in my hand. So I am not playing alot of hands obviously is an understatement. My math question is what if you only flop one of the cards needed to make your hand. Lets say that a minimum of 5-7 players are seeing every flop in this 4/8 limit omaha game. Do you continue? Hand being 9875 and flop is K36? Fold? what if you flop two pairs, are you ever folding before the river? I've heard this is a "river" game, but if I am folding by not hitting my hand on the flop I'm not giving myself a chance to see the turn/river cards which could get me there. Could be too expensive and risky.

    With 6-7 players seeing the flop should I see the turn then fold? I can post some specific hands to exemplify my dilemna. Any help out there would be mucho appreciated. Thanks. Cya
    Last edited by bluandbrneyes; 07-24-2011 at 07:00 PM.

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    As for the hand described, a call on the flop would make sense because you can turn the nuts and be free rolling the same straight on the river. 7 handed easy call on flop. 3 or 4 makes it about even money. The straight is easily disguised and will be paid off by any set.
    Also, consider the wrap as a monster drawing hand. In high only limit, you cant really maximize the fold equity that makes this hand an monster like you can in PLO.
    Last edited by paratrooper99; 07-25-2011 at 01:08 AM.

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    While at the tables yesterday and reading my phone (internet) while playing I discovered posts about "pivot cards" which I thought pretty interesting. I've never heard of this before. Example..... my hand is JT97 with two clubs. Flop comes 248 with one club. So mostly the pivot card (8 of clubs in this instance) makes for back door flush draw/straight draw. I believe you will hit your hand either the flush or straight less than 40% of the time (somewhere around I hear about 37% give or take) you need to note that that flush is not the nuts.
    I'm thinking in my Omaha games at the Boulder Station and 8 people seeing a flop this may be worth playing. Note that 8 of 10 players in this game regularly only play 3 cards ( I play 4)

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