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    Question Bad play of A-K?

    Caesar's tournament yesterday. Blinds were 50/100 and I had 6,100 chips. Early position raised to 300 and I called with:



    There was a player after me calling every raise and I didn't want to build a monster pot without seeing if I could hit an ace or king first, so I didn't re-raise. The calling station called and there were 1,100 chips in the pot when the flop came:



    The early position raiser checked, I checked and the calling station bet 700. I guessed that his small bet meant he had a flush draw, straight draw or a small overpair. The early position raiser called, and I figured he probably had two big cards. At this point I figured to have ten outs so I called with nearly 4:1 odds. There were 3,200 chips in the pot when the turn came:



    Early position and I checked and the calling station bet 2,000. Early position called, so then I assumed one of his high cards must be a king. I raised all-in for 3,100 more, and the calling station reluctantly called. I was still hoping he had a straight or flush draw. Then the early position player called and I was no longer sure where I was in the hand.

    There were 18,500 chips in the pot when the river came:



    Early position checked, late position pushed all-in with his flush and early position folded. Late position had rivered the nut flush with:



    So I was 5:1 favorite when I got all my money in, with a chance to triple up. But did I play this poorly? Some people at the table said I clearly did. What do you think?
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    I think you played it fine. My only question is if you are putting players on these hands and since you have given yourself position on the flop since the player behind you bet and EP called, why not make the play here? If you are truly putting the players on those hands then make the move when you have some fold equity (since the flush draw is getting ~5:1 on a call on the turn). There is a good chance he's calling you on the flop with the flush/str8 and overcard draws but you never know.
    The only other point might be to push the turn when the K comes, since you let the flush draw bet it gets him pot committed so he almost has to call with the 5:1 odds but if you push then he's getting about 1.5:1 to call making the play much worse (on his part I mean .

    good luck the rest of the way

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    If the player to your left truly was a calling station, there was no way he was getting away from the hand after the flop, and maybe even pre-flop unless you re-popped pretty big. I don't know many poker players who would fold his hand on that flop, even if you shoved there. A gutshot, 2 overs, and the nut flush draw... that's 18 outs (most likely, it turns out the A wasn't one, but he didn't know that, and it's still 15 outs).

    TBH, I would have folded your hand on the flop. You had a drawing hand PF, and you missed. No sense in getting creative against someone who usually won't fold and a PF raiser.
    Last edited by wreaks; 11-14-2008 at 12:54 PM.


    Any two cards...

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    Jarrod is right on here.. I was thinking the exact same thing.. So I will just run off of his excellent post..

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