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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipless Wonder View Post
    You're usually ahead of her limping range, and taking down the blinds right now can make a nice impact to your stack.

    I would have also pushed pre-flop.
    Hindsight of course is always 20/20. I thought I could get away with a steal without risking all my chips (especially since I had been successful before). The more I think about it, the more my decision to protect some of my chips didnt make sense, considering I went ahead and shoved in the dark anyway.

    I think I got caught up inthe style of the tournament where no one shoved and people were calling or raising with no FE.
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    One other comment that may be helpful to you here...

    There is a place and time for the stop and go play. I don't think this is it, but when you do get into that situation, don't shove blind. Wait for the flop, act like it's exactly what you had hoped for, then shove. When you shove blind, your opponent knows you most likely missed the flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipless Wonder View Post
    One other comment that may be helpful to you here...

    There is a place and time for the stop and go play. I don't think this is it, but when you do get into that situation, don't shove blind. Wait for the flop, act like it's exactly what you had hoped for, then shove. When you shove blind, your opponent knows you most likely missed the flop.
    How could they know I missed the flop if I shove before seeing it? I was trying to give the impression that I had a monster, i.e AA, KK. In all honesty, I was trying to get creative vs. a player who I didnt have much respect for. It seemed to have almost worked as she did not insta call with top pair.

    A post thought. Do you think she was right for calling my original raise? FYI, I had a very good table image, meaning I knew what the hell I was doing unlike 60% of the field.
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    How could they know I missed the flop if I shove before seeing it?
    It's a safe assumption most of the time, since most hands miss most flops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipless Wonder View Post
    It's a safe assumption most of the time, since most hands miss most flops.
    Obviously true. You can say that on every hand, but not simply as a result of my shove in the dark.
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    Most flops miss most hands. Let's call that number 67%. So two-thirds of the time you miss the flop. A reasonably intelligent opponent will know that you will only hit a flop 33% of the time.

    If you see a flop and then continuation bet, most reasonable opponents will assume there's MORE than a 33% chance that you hit the flop.

    For this reason, you can induce more fold equity by at least pretending to look at a flop prior to shoving all-in.
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