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    Live Tournament Play

    Tonight I played in a $50 BI 1r +1A in Powell. There was a field of 46, top 6 cash.

    There were 10 or 11 left (2 tables). Blinds were 1000/2000. I have an average stack of $19,000. There were 2 or 3 huge stacks and everyone else was short stacked (6BB - 14BB). Only one of the huge stack was at my table.

    I am in the BB with
    UTG (around $40k) limps
    Folds around, including the SB.

    UTG had limped 2 or 3 times earlier in the tournament from EP. I raised 2.5x - 3xBB from late position and was able to make her fold twice before. At that point in the tournament, she was still among the chip leaders and I had probably 20BB.

    With a limp I dont think she has a monster as I dont think she is a creative player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewbacca Nuts View Post
    Tonight I played in a $50 BI 1r +1A in Powell. There was a field of 46, top 6 cash.

    There were 10 or 11 left (2 tables). Blinds were 1000/2000. I have an average stack of $19,000. There were 2 or 3 huge stacks and everyone else was short stacked (6BB - 14BB). Only one of the huge stack was at my table.

    I am in the BB with
    UTG (around $40k) limps
    Folds around, including the SB.

    UTG had limped 2 or 3 times earlier in the tournament from EP. I raised 2.5x - 3xBB from late position and was able to make her fold twice before. At that point in the tournament, she was still among the chip leaders and I had probably 20BB.

    With a limp I dont think she has a monster as I dont think she is a creative player.

    What do you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Nut View Post
    All-in.
    I figured that was the response I would get. No one at the table had the push fold mentality. However, a 2.5BB raise was usually very effective at this point. I had made her fold twice before with a simple raise and I didnt feel like I wanted to risk my tournament life since I was in position to cash.

    I raised to $7,000
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    Back to the story...

    Before the flop is shown, I shove in the dark.

    Flop comes...




    She thinks about it for a second and says "I think I have to call." After some more pondering, she counts off $12k chips and shows

    Turn



    River




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    You're usually ahead of her limping range, and taking down the blinds right now can make a nice impact to your stack.

    I would have also pushed pre-flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipless Wonder View Post
    You're usually ahead of her limping range, and taking down the blinds right now can make a nice impact to your stack.

    I would have also pushed pre-flop.
    Hindsight of course is always 20/20. I thought I could get away with a steal without risking all my chips (especially since I had been successful before). The more I think about it, the more my decision to protect some of my chips didnt make sense, considering I went ahead and shoved in the dark anyway.

    I think I got caught up inthe style of the tournament where no one shoved and people were calling or raising with no FE.
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    One other comment that may be helpful to you here...

    There is a place and time for the stop and go play. I don't think this is it, but when you do get into that situation, don't shove blind. Wait for the flop, act like it's exactly what you had hoped for, then shove. When you shove blind, your opponent knows you most likely missed the flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipless Wonder View Post
    One other comment that may be helpful to you here...

    There is a place and time for the stop and go play. I don't think this is it, but when you do get into that situation, don't shove blind. Wait for the flop, act like it's exactly what you had hoped for, then shove. When you shove blind, your opponent knows you most likely missed the flop.
    How could they know I missed the flop if I shove before seeing it? I was trying to give the impression that I had a monster, i.e AA, KK. In all honesty, I was trying to get creative vs. a player who I didnt have much respect for. It seemed to have almost worked as she did not insta call with top pair.

    A post thought. Do you think she was right for calling my original raise? FYI, I had a very good table image, meaning I knew what the hell I was doing unlike 60% of the field.
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    How could they know I missed the flop if I shove before seeing it?
    It's a safe assumption most of the time, since most hands miss most flops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipless Wonder View Post
    It's a safe assumption most of the time, since most hands miss most flops.
    Obviously true. You can say that on every hand, but not simply as a result of my shove in the dark.
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