Good live cash win rate?

<sigh> unfortunately I don't have a stop-loss. I think it really depends on your style. If you can bounce back from a loss of a couple buy-ins, then keep playing if the game is good. If you can't, then I think you need to leave after x buy-ins (if you don't have a track record of every coming back from being stuck 3+ BIs, what makes you think you can do it this time)?

One quirky thing I do is when I am done, I'm done. I don't wait for the blinds to get to me. (cue the "they're free hands, you've already paid for them" comments). It's not that I'm afraid to play AA the last hand of the night, it's more that mentally I've checked out of the game. If' I've checked out, then I'll play the hand poorly ... which costs me money.

The one exception I make is at Gemini if I paid for the bad beat, then I'll fold the free hands in case someone at the table hits it.

Stop losses and playing stuck would be a really good topic for a new thread. Perspectives from people who multitable online or play SNGs or even mtts would also be interesting.

I only in the past couple of months got good at playing stuck. The key is I stopped thinking of cheesing for the day as a win and being stuck as a loss. I'm never going to be disappointed if I'm down 1500 and I only get 200 of that back. When I'm stuck getting even isn't even a goal for me. I rarely get even from being down 5 or more buyins, but I turn 5 buyin losses into 3 or 2 buyin losses all of the time which is huge for my bottom line.

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Originally Posted by FearToxin90

Local card clubs in Ohio are unraked. A raked game not for charity is illegal.

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Well, sure, a raked home game is "illegal," but they still exist all over the place.

Are there no Casinos in the Ohio area? I don't really know that area too well.

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Originally Posted by FrankJones

Are there no Casinos in the Ohio area? I don't really know that area too well.

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We just passed Issue 3 last November which allows for 4 casinos (Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati and Toledo). They are due to break ground some time in 2010. They should be open lst 2011?

Otherwise, there are no legal casinos in Ohio. There are several right on the border with PA and IN, but technically not in Ohio.

Many of the Columbus posters play at CSC and Gemini (local social clubs that do not rake their poker games so as to keep them legal).

Does anyone know what winrates are attainable for playing 1/2 or 2/5 live? What size roll should I have for live games? 10 buy ins? Any other live advice would be appreciated as I have played mainly small buy in 90 man KO's.

try to have atleast 20 buyins if you plan on playing regularly. If its recreational it doesnt really matter how big ur BR is. 20 BI's is minimal in my opinion.

Pay more attention to your table and pick up any info you can from them.

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Does anyone know what winrates are attainable for playing 1/2 or 2/5 live?

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I spent quite a bit of time at the Venetian cash game tables in Las Vegas last week. The general consensus was that a top live grinder there could produce hourly rates as follows (after rake and tips).

$1/$2 HLHE = $10 to $20 per hour
$2/$5 NLHE = $20 to $70 per hour
$5/$10 NLHE <= $100 per hour

Note: a top player should be able to annihilate these numbers in a small local club that isn't filled with professionals.

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What size roll should I have for live games? 10 buy ins?

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Depending on who you ask, you'll hear numbers ranging from 10 to 100 buy-ins. My impression is that most successful grinders who really do this for a living use 40 or 50 buy-ins as their guideline.

Thanks Scott, I shoulda did a search on this topic.

Where I am playing now, in Gold Coast, Australia, tipping is not allowed and there are no hourly table fees. The play is very soft and I've been winning at 22-26bbs/hr. I've only played about 35 hours which I know is a very small sample size.

How long have you been playing in the GC? I used to play there often.