Why do people hide their winning hand until the end?

**FrankJones** · 05-31-2010 05:37 PM

I am sure some will disagree, but I think is is really annoying:

SHort stack opens to 15 from early position. I had been playing loose. I decided to raise him all in ($100 approximately). He quickly calls and I turn over JJ.

Board comes out all rags and then he shows AA.

WHat the hell is this shit? Turn over the AA once I show you JJ. WHy are you waiting? DO you plan to muck if a J hits? WHy? Who cares? Are you afraid we will know that you raise with AA and call an all in? That's come crucial information right there.

I think it's kind of a dick move not to show right away once I turn over the jacks. If I had a chance to pull a major slowroll on this guy I think it would have been appropriate to do so. He seemed like a nice guy and I know a lot of people do this, but I just don't get it.

**ohpokergal** · 05-31-2010 05:45 PM

NOTHING sucks so much at a table than slow rolling. I think it's disrespectful to your opponent and to the game.

**FrankJones** · 05-31-2010 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by ohpokergal

NOTHING sucks so much at a table than slow rolling. I think it's disrespectful to your opponent and to the game.

I agree. I asked a friend how has played a lot more live poker than I have, and he said it wasn't technically a slowroll since he did turn them up at the river without a lot of delay.

But I think that's nonsense. I had the courtesy to show him what he was trying to dodge, the least he could do is show me than I am behind instead of making it look like he had TT or AK or AQ.

Besides, if I flip and the other guy doesn't, I'll probably ask to see his cards anyway. I want to know what he called me with.

**ozzy** · 05-31-2010 10:03 PM

They just dont know any better. I snap show aa if I get it all in pre, or any hand that Im sure is good, its nice to know what you're sweating. I guess I should do this less though to gain info

**cardsfan04** · 05-31-2010 10:46 PM

That's not a slowroll. If you suckout, they won't show you that they had aces, so they don't have to give more info away than necessary. What they are doing is just smart poker and EXTREMELY common.

**cardsfan04** · 05-31-2010 10:47 PM

Also, you shouldn't ask to see what somebody called you with. It's generally considered poor ettiquette.

**ozzy** · 06-01-2010 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by cardsfan04

That's not a slowroll. If you suckout, they won't show you that they had aces, so they don't have to give more info away than necessary. What they are doing is just smart poker and EXTREMELY common.

Im pretty sure hes talking about players that arent smart doing it. They are the type that will still show aa after you suckout to say look you sucked out. Its a glorified slowroll to these people, or at least the ones Im thinking of, they like you wondering as the cards peel off

**3kingoutman** · 06-01-2010 01:21 AM

some players like sammy farha think its unlucky to show their hand until the hand is over(and they have the best of it)

**FrankJones** · 06-01-2010 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by cardsfan04

That's not a slowroll. If you suckout, they won't show you that they had aces, so they don't have to give more info away than necessary. What they are doing is just smart poker and EXTREMELY common.

Is it bad for him if people know he calls all in with Aces?

**FrankJones** · 06-01-2010 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by cardsfan04

Also, you shouldn't ask to see what somebody called you with. It's generally considered poor ettiquette.

I guess I don't understand this. If I show my hand and he is ahead, I think he should show his. I put in $110 pre flop; that isn't enough to see his hand?

I guess I will just stop turning over my cards on all ins, since so many other people do not. or I'll say "I'll flip if you flip."