tough spot with QQ in a 48/90man

[swd805]

Thoughts on my line? Do you call here? This hand confused me...

Full Tilt Poker Game #15474496609: $48 + $4 KO Sit & Go (113453298), Table 5 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:54:56 ET - 2009/10/20
Seat 1: KyDeano (3,845)
Seat 2: rimmer0 (3,575)
Seat 3: Lary18thS (2,585)
Seat 4: swd805 (2,890)
Seat 5: SteveTheWebGuy (4,060)
Seat 6: mikjets (3,755)
Seat 7: chokitin (2,950)
Seat 8: baldomero84 (3,015)
Seat 9: brownpitbull420 (4,345)
mikjets posts the small blind of 25
chokitin posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to swd805 [Qh Qc]
baldomero84 folds
brownpitbull420 folds
KyDeano folds
rimmer0 folds
Lary18thS folds
swd805 raises to 150
SteveTheWebGuy has 15 seconds left to act
SteveTheWebGuy folds
mikjets folds
chokitin raises to 350
swd805 calls 200
*** FLOP *** [2s Ts 9d]
chokitin checks
swd805 checks
*** TURN *** [2s Ts 9d] [8d]
chokitin bets 725
swd805 calls 725
*** RIVER *** [2s Ts 9d 8d] [3c]
chokitin bets 1,875, and is all in
swd805 ????

[rryu87]

really hard to just say call or fold without any info on the opponent.... Since you did check the flop, your QQ is def underrepped. either nuts/set or monkey shove with a10 k10 or even jj

[Kasper-sn]

i don't get your line in this hand at all.
these games have SOOOOOOOOOOO many insanely poor players that i don't get why you don't 4bet and get it in with queens 100%.
next to that the flop check really doesnt make much sense at all.

yo answer your question. i don't think i can fold in this spot ever against some complete random.

[siash69]

Can we really see villain 3betting a PP from the BB which makes a set? I would have to give him more credit than that been a nit JJ+ AK. Flop check seems to me he isnt afraid of an over card on the turn and perhaps looking to check raise the flop, so I rule out JJ/QQ and AK as I would have expected a C Bet. Tough spot with nearly half your stack invested, if Im normally halfway up the hilt Im going all the way and calling but with 1800ish left I would probably fold.

Im defo betting the flop though. If the flop is bet Im pot committed and will call the river shove.

[Chipless Wonder]

I like your pre-flop line. It sets you up perfectly for your opponent to overplay his hand.

Post-flop, I would bet, and plan to call his all-in check-raise.

As played, I snap call here and smile when he turns up A-10 or A-K.

[kennl]

if u play it like this then no reason for you not to be calling the river unless hes some regular nit u know

but yeah kinda agree that his calling range pre is so wide esp with his opening raise that i would 4bet here quite happily knowing its going in like 99% of the time and that im going to be ahead like 95% of the time

[Konscious]

I think I would have played the hand about the same way, but I probably would have bet the flop to see where I was at. I don't mind checking back the flop for deception and to see what he does on the turn.

I would be slightly concerned about KK, AA but i would think they would be betting a flop like that most of the time unless they planned to check raise and are now betting strong given the scarier turn... I could see 1010,99 taking a similar line with the flop check, but I also think it could likely be AK or AQ that turned a flush draw or committed to try to take the pot down when you checked back.

This type of line on this type of board seems to be more of a bluff from someone who got the impression that you didn't have anything when you checked back the flop(against unknown)... i don't play a ton of these $48, but i've definitely seen tons of "awesome" plays

I like checking back in spots to gain equity through deception, but by checking back the flop you don't know where you are at when he comes out betting the pot...

[TYggShipIt]

Poker stars is interesting as well..

PokerStars Game #34297728087: Tournament #205483656, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/20 21:34:52 MT [2009/10/20 23:34:52 ET]
Table '205483656 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: kentons188 (2205 in chips)
Seat 3: Dodger4life (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: H3R34DaLoot (1210 in chips)
Seat 5: dfouts (1510 in chips)
Seat 6: gajn (5470 in chips)
Seat 7: Chrish4841 (1540 in chips)
Seat 8: tmw23 (1515 in chips)
kentons188: posts small blind 15
Dodger4life: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H3R34DaLoot [Ks Kc]
H3R34DaLoot: raises 60 to 90
dfouts: folds
gajn: calls 90
Chrish4841: folds
tmw23: folds
kentons188: calls 75
kentons188 said, "got really crap conection sorry guys"
Dodger4life: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ah 5c 9s]
kentons188: checks
Dodger4life: checks
H3R34DaLoot: checks
gajn: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 5c 9s] [6s]
kentons188: bets 30
Dodger4life: raises 310 to 340
H3R34DaLoot: folds
gajn: calls 340
kentons188: folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah 5c 9s 6s] [Js]
DBK927 is connected
kennywawa is connected
Dodger4life: bets 500
gajn: raises 500 to 1000
Dodger4life: calls 500 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gajn: shows [5s 4s] (a flush, Jack high)
Dodger4life: shows [7c 8c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
gajn collected 3070 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3070 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 5c 9s 6s Js]
Seat 2: kentons188 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Dodger4life (big blind) showed [7c 8c] and lost with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 4: H3R34DaLoot folded on the Turn
Seat 5: dfouts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gajn showed [5s 4s] and won (3070) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 7: Chrish4841 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tmw23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)