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    <20BB Strategy

    As it pertains to 45's and 90's...playing with 15-20BB at or around the bubble is by far my biggest weakness. I know I dont need to shove, but I also know that I need to be aggressive to take advantage of passive players. I think SprStoner said he never raises in this range and fold to a reraise. I have a hard time commiting my stack and tournament when reraised in this position. Especially if I raised with a weaker hand.

    Can I get some help/feedback from those that seem to have this strategy down?

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    In general, don't raise the weaker hands that you will be inclined to fold to a shove.

    I am far from an expert on these things though... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by otbdave View Post
    In general, don't raise the weaker hands that you will be inclined to fold to a shove.

    I am far from an expert on these things though... lol
    I am inclined to fold all my weaker hands when reraised for all my chips. But if I dont widen my range then I am not taking advantage of the players who play passively on the bubble. All the top players say you should be taking advantage of these guys.

    I guess I need reaffirmation that this is the correct strategy. I think that I also need to get a better idea of what range I should be considering when applying this strategy.
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    This stack is what could be termed a 're-steal stack' and it is the toughest stack size with which to work.

    Your tactic should be to only raise with hands that are strong enough to call a re-raise. You should also be willing to re-ship light. In other words, it is better to fold a hand like a9 from the Hijack and re-raise a late position raiser with a hand like 78 suited. Showdown value is the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAPPIN View Post
    In other words, it is better to fold a hand like a9 from the Hijack and re-raise a late position raiser with a hand like 78 suited. Showdown value is the key.
    I assume you would reraise all in in this example and only if you sense he is attempting to steal blinds. Would you still make this play if he has, lets say, double your stack?

    This seems like a very risky play. The amateur player (me) would never make a move like this with such a weak hand albeit with showdown value.

    Thanks for your opinion. I was hoping to hear from you as well as a few other top players.
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    Look for people who are habitually making standard raises from LP. As long as your shove amount offers them reasonable enough reason to fold, they almost always will. When called you almost always end up 40% ish, so not too devastating.

    I think this is the reasoning ^
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    bump for more thoughts.
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